09 October 2006

The God Delusion - lazy criticism

For a blogger who lays claim to scholarly qualities, rmj presents depressingly superficial arguments against Dawkins's 'The God Delusion'. Here is rmj:

Neither a theologian nor a philosopher of religion, he [Dawkins] spends 80+ pages on the arguments for the existence of the God of Abraham (the Hindu pantheon and other gods of other world religions need not apply, apparently). Neither an anthropologist nor a psychiatrist, he devotes 70 pages to the "roots of religion" and a discussion of whether morality is possible outside of religion (I'll save you the money: yes. That's me. Ignore Dawkins.). Not trained as a scriptural scholar (not all of whom are either religious nor Christian), he devotes another 40 pages to scriptural criticism. The rest of the book is devoted to making clear his straw man is actually a version of Christian fundamentalism, one that exists largely in his fevered perceptions.Skimming the index, I find no reference to any philosopher of religion outside of Immanuel Kant (and he merits only a page; thus does Mr. Dawkins apparently dispose of both Kant's Idealism and Religion within the Limits of Reason Alone). The chapter on the proofs of God references Aquinas (whom Dawkins deigns to declare a thinker with an "eminent" reputation. Yeah, and Shakespeare was a pretty good writer, too.) and Pascal. The index betrays no reference anywhere in the book to St. Anselm (creator of what Kant later labelled the "ontological proof"), nor to modern philosophers like Charles Hartshorne (The Logic of Perfection, his updating of Anselm's argument) or Alvin Plantinga...Nowhere in his index, indeed, does Mr. Dawkins reference any important philosophers of religion or even of phenomenology.

What have we here? A critique based on a reading of the Table of Contents and the Index? Surely not. But yes, as we read rmj, the truth dawns. He hasn't read the Dawkins book that he so ineffectually criticises in such an appallingly innappropriate magisterial tone. He fails to address a single one of Dawkins arguments, relying instead on what he imagines Dawkins arguments must be based on his scanning of the Table of Contents and the Index. He hasn't even bothered to read the index properly, claiming that:
The index betrays no reference anywhere in the book to St. Anselm

Well, Anselm of Canterbury appears large as life in the Index and is referenced on four pages. It's quite disgraceful to critique a book based on a reading of its index, but if he is hell bent on that flummery, it behoves him to read the index properly - if he is so incompetent that he gets even that wrong, well, we need not give much credence to anything else he says about the matter. (If, against all the evidence, rmj has read the book, things are no better for him since he stands accused of egregious superficiality; his criticism is indistinguishable from that of someone who hasn't read the book. But, the evidence is that he hadn't read it at the time of his writing).

Since it's impossible to properly represent Dawkins arguments without reading the book (a task that rmj regards as an unnecessary chore), rmj sets up and knocks down strawmen with grim satisfaction and utter futility. For example, he criticises Dawkins for concentrating on Abrahamaic religion, a point that, had he only bothered to read the book, he would find Dawkins addressing head on.

Rmj is more concerned to present himself as learned than to offer any sort of properly reasoned criticism. His is the sort of pseudo-intellectualism that seeks to impress others and that is impressed by the length and complexity of arguments: "Hartshorne's argument is so complex that even Mr. Gale declines to include it in his book, saying it needs separate consideration". Well, it must be right, then. I trust that even rmj can see the fallacy of that now that it's pointed out to him. Hartshorne's argument might be telling or it might not; whether it is or not does not depend on how long or complex it is; and its utter ruin need not require more than three sentences. And rmj knows (or should know) that Hartshorne's philosophy is completely marginalised in the context of practical religion (as well as being thoroughly criticised by many other philosophers - the philosophers of religion have never been able to agree on any matter whatsoever), so it is unnecessary and inappropriate for Dawkins to spend any ink on him.

There are some valid criticisms that one might raise against Dawkins's thesis. Rmj misses them all. At one point in his dreadful critique he heaves himself up on to a pedestal, and in reference to Dawkins pronounces: "I must admit a weakness, though: I do not suffer fools gladly" I wonder, then, if he doesn't suffer fools gladly, how he manages to live with himself.

9 Comments:

At 11:47 PM, Anonymous Peter said...

I actually have read the book, tiresome a task though that was, and I have to agree with some of the criticisms of rmj. 'The God Delusion' is, at best, superficial in its coverage of the topic of why people feel the need to believe in God(s). There is a great deal of ranting and raving against the lunacies of fundamentalism in all its forms, but little of substance. He talks a great deal about 'memes' (a concept he himself invented, and which he does not explain to the uninitiated reader) and himself, and he does something highly suspect as well; he tells us anecdotes for which he has neither evidence nor corroboration - he expects us to take his word for it (ex. the story about how a prominent athiest was treated by the police force in some hick-infested backwater - don't remember the page number, don't have the book here with me). That's about it. His explanation for how religions developed in the first place are rather unconvincing, and his arguments for the non-existence of God are weak.
Overall, this book was a disappointment, and I was expecting so much more when I bought it. My score: 4 out of 10.

 
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At 5:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Peter comments: " his arguments for the non-existence of God are weak."

Sigh... what do you want, exactly? Do you want an air-tight disproof of the existence of God? None will be forthcoming... you can't prove a negative, and you certainly can't prove the non-existence of such a slippery critter as God.

 
At 2:00 AM, Blogger Peldor said...

Peter said...
His explanation for how religions developed in the first place are rather unconvincing, and his arguments for the non-existence of God are weak.

If you read back on the first chapter and chapter one you will see that he will not say that "god does not exist" but that the existence of god "is highly improbable". I wonder if you believe in the sun god, or any other god besides the god of your religion? If you only believe that your god is the one true god how do you think of believers of the other "wrong" religions? This is what religion does to people, makes them label other people "inferior" and "not worthy" just because of their personal (usually private) beliefs.
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He talks a great deal about 'memes' (a concept he himself invented, and which he does not explain to the uninitiated reader)...

Memes being a concept "invented" by Dawkin's??? More like "coined" in the sense of sport bikers coining the word "squid"
squid: Motorcyclist term for motorcycle riders who ignore the bounds of safety, wisdom, and occasionally physics in their choice of bikes, speed, and ride wear. Frequently seen doing wheelies on a cherry new sportbike wearing only a t-shirt, shorts, and thongs. Occasionally seen later with massive injuries and a no-longer-cherry sportsbike.

This is not a new idea, it is only an easy way of referring to a dangerous sport-biker.

Dawkin's coining of this phrase only refers and refines to a known theory of the "Bandwagon effect". Look it up if you don't believe me.
Dawkin's book is a very real escape for someone that is trapped in religion, and for the religious it is a scathing true look at what you believe in and could possible shake (or even destroy) your faith.

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...and he does something highly suspect as well; he tells us anecdotes for which he has neither evidence nor corroboration - he expects us to take his word for it (ex. the story about how a prominent athiest was treated by the police force in some hick-infested backwater...
Your right but the anecdotes that have no evidence or corroboration are also listed as such, as "easily imagined conversations"
As for the particular mentioned story is it that hard of a leap of the imagination?
Their is even a study that leads to the theory that religiosity is inversely proportional to intelligence.

Quoting the article referenced here http://tinyurl.com/2ube6l "...the lower the IQ score, the more likely a person is to be religious.
Many studies show this fact to be true. You should really research this and reconsider what Dawkins is saying.

 
At 6:28 AM, Anonymous falldog said...

Anyone that sees The God Delusion as "at best, a superficial coverage of the topic of why people feel the need to believe in God" either has not understood the book, skipped chapters, or is a blind theist that believes two and two can't be four, because Dawkins said so.

 
At 8:32 PM, Blogger Mister R said...

I am in the process of reading and enjoying for the most part the God Delusion. I do wonder why Mr. Dawkins would devote so much intellectual energy to a task which I'm pretty much convinced isn't going to change anyones mind one way or the other. Rationally he presents some comical at times anecodates but the unconscious reasons one either believes or doesn't is never nor can it ever be addressed. Speaking of unconscious, I also have to wonder why He would invest the time to attack a transference Father figure even if you think Freudian theory is rubbish. Still, one could do alot worse than spending some time actually reading his book.

 
At 1:54 PM, Anonymous Living Hope In Jesus said...

May The LORD God Almighty Jesus Christ lead you to His eternal salvation.

Living Hope In Jesus
www.livinghopeinjesus.com

 
At 1:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, I am glad that atheists now have the opportunity to be fundamentalists. Pretty soon you'll start suicide bombing. Just because someone one desperately clings to a different idea than most people desperately cling too, doesn’t make them open minded. Dawkins is a fundamentalists and a zealot. His arguments are mostly borrowed for other philosophers or conjured up with no evidence. He has appealed to a lot of disaffected people and made millions doing it. He is just another preacher for another school of rigid thought.

 
At 3:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What i said about Richard Dawkins was meant to insult him and I appologise.

 

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